it feels like there are people who are not satisfied with obama. they are satisfied in part because the auto industry rescue really change things in ohio and they are happy with that. unemployment is much lower in ohio than in other states but they're still discontent with obama and his leadership. but when it comes to really make the jump and vote for romney, that is where he's just not able to do it. i would think of it is as similar to the way kerry talked to people and they said i don't want to warn other like bush and i don't want all this stuff. are you going to vote for kerry? i think there is some similarity to that. i don't know, i mean you know what i hear is what you hear. is seems to be that obama is held as pretty significant, not significant but a solid long-term lead over romney and romney will never fail to close the gap in my sense on the ground is that strikes me that the polls are probably right. but no predictions. no predictions. >> kevin, i want to take you back to -- i want to take you back to the discussion about foreign-pol